Servetin mutluluktan çok mutsuzluk getirdiğini mizahı bir dille oyun olarak sunan "Ploutos (Servet)", Aristophanes’in zamanına göre ne kadar yaratıcı olduğunu bir kez daha okuyucuya sunan eğlenceli bir komedya. Her ne kadar diğer eserleri kadar güçlü bir alt metin ortaya koyamasa da servetin yol açtığı sorunları oldukça güzel bir şekilde özetlemesini biliyor. Yoksulluk sebebiyle servetin değerinin ortaya çıktığının altını çizen oyunda herkesin bir anda zengin olmasıyla her şey kötüye gidiyor. Se...

Πάντα ήθελα να διαβάσω κείμενο αρχαίας τραγωδίας/κωμωδίας ή γενικά έπους κλπ.Εκτός από το έπος της Οδύσσειας του Ομήρου, που είχα ήδη διαβάσει και καταενθουσιαστεί είπα να ξεκινήσω με κάτι ελαφρύ.Τί καλύτερο από Αριστοφάνη!Ο Πλούτος είναι ένα έργο πολύ μικρούλι σε έκταση, αλλά με αρκετό νόημα.Μου άρεσε πολύ η γραφή και γέλασα αρκετά με τις ατάκες, αλλά αυτό που μου άρεσε πολύ ήταν πως αυτό το έργο μπορεί να διαβαστεί και από παιδιά.Ανυπομονώ να συνεχίζω με άλλα έργα του ιδίου!!!

آریستوفانس یکی از موضوعاتی را که در "زنان در اکلزیا" مطرح کرده بود، یعنی برابری ثروت رو در جامعه و تاثیرش روی اقشار مختلف و سیاست کلی حکومت، در نمایشنامه پلوتوس تم اصلی میکنه و به این وسیله بیشتر بسط میده. در این بسط دادن، جالب توجه ترین نکته ای که به نظرم اومد، آخرین صحنه نمایشنامه بود که هرمس، بعد از ثروتمند شدن تمامی مردم فقیر به در خانه پلوتوس، خدای ثروت، میاد و از فقر و گرسنگی که گریبان گیر خدایان المپ و در صدرشون زئوس شده، شکایت میکنه. فقر و گرسنگی خدایان ناشی از اینه که بعد از نابودی فقر

Compared to some of his other plays, unfunny(That’s unsurprising, given the main theme’s money);Still, there were some passages worth a stich,Like when Poverty tells what happens if all were rich.

Aristophanes antik çağda,insanların parayala olan ilişkisi üzerinden çok zekice bir oyun yazmış.Günümüzde hala geçerli konular olması sanatçının ne kadar evrensel olduğunun göstergesi

Jag sökte upp denna baserat på en formulering om Eros som son till Penia (fattigdom) och Porus (rikedom, tillfredsställelse, kreativitet). Det fick mig att vilja förstå teologin kring Penia, och då fanns det en hänvisning hit. Det gör att jag lika mycket läser denna pjäs som ett mysteriespel som en komedi. Argumentet är sammanfattningsvis att för många fattiga människor är smartare än de med nedärvd rikedom. Aristofanes förklarar det genom att hänvisa till att Plutos är blind, och att Zeus gjord...

En la larga tradición literaria de Occidente, se han extendido y brotado de la personalidad de los hombres dedicados a la reflexión, por debajo del nivel de la expresión articulada y consciente de los discursos intelectuales, dos actitudes antagónicas al respecto de lo que desde la contemporaneidad se ha llamado pensamiento social, una modalidad que modernamente se practicó en la llamada literatura utópica, y que no deja de estar presente en la Antigüedad como demuestra una obra cual Pluto. De e...

Puanım 5/5 (%90/100)"Ne zaman Ploutos eskisi gibi görür olduondan beri kimse biz tanrılara ne buhur,ne defne, ne arpa ekmeği, ne kurban,ne başka bir şey takdim eder oldu."Aristophanes MÖ 450-388 yılları arasında yaşadığı düşünülen ünlü Antik Yunan oyun yazarı. Hayatı boyunca yazdığı 40 oyundan sadece 11’i günümüze ulaşmıştır. Eserlerinde genelde kendi yaşadığı kent olan Atina ve oradaki sorunları işlemiştir. Son yazdığı eser olan Ploutos’ta bu üslubundan uzaklaşmış ve daha evrensel bir konuya de...

So, this is the only evidence we have of Middle Comedy, huh? Well, it's pretty good. Not perfect, but good. It's weird to be a person living in the 21st Century, reading a play centered around such a base character and not thinking much more of it; all while knowing how unusual this was during Aristophanes' time. It wasn't as refined or humorous as Frogs or Lysistrata, but it had an interesting message inside about wealth and what good and bad it can bring to society.

Καλή κωμωδία που, όμως, δεν έχει την δύναμη άλλων κωμωδιών του. Μου άρεσαν ιδιαίτερα οι ιδέες του για την διαφθορά του ανθρώπου από τα πλούτη και για το πόσο απαραίτητη είναι η Φτώχεια (το να πασχίζει δηλαδή κανείς για την ζωή του και να μην επαναπαύεται στα πλούτη) για την κοινωνία. Υποψιάζομαι βέβαια πως ο «Δίκαιος ἀνήρ» του έργου σύντομα θα είναι σαν τον «συκοφάντην»...

delicious :)

A satire on greed and wealth. Or is Poverty right?

Lido pela trad. Stephan Halliwell

Here transition from the Old Comedy to the New Comedy is really apparent and it feels like the new elements fail to outweight elements from previous plays now omitted. On the one hand I am happy to once again read his comedy that does not turn into a pure madness and out of all his works this was the most readable one (but The Birds are the close-second). On the other hand I felt like something was missing here. This play didn't give that feeling of freedom, unbound merryness and nice absurdity

Meh. I can't say that this was the best way to finish off my Greek drama project. Plutus is about a man who wants to be wealthy, so he is visited by Wealth himself. I can't say that I can glean that much more from the story, but there is still a lot of that nice Aristophanes-esque wit present. There isn't much more for me to say about this- I'm not sure that I had that much of an opinion about this play at all.

Resultó interesante todo lo relacionado con el dios Pluto, pero considero que decae en cuanto al relato. No percibo la vis cómica de las obras iniciales, los personajes no son tan vigorosos y ni se aprecia tanto la crítica política que caracteriza la obra de Aristófanes. Considero que pudo haber sido más ingenioso. Rescato el agón con la Pobreza: interesante.

2.5Sarà che la commedia non è esattamente il mio genere preferito, sarà che questa era pure un po' assurda specie alla fine, ma Aristofane si becca due stelle.

AristophanesThe Complete Plays of AristophanesIn compilation only.

Plutus by Aristophanes is similar to A Parliament of Women in that it depicts a world turned upside down. The story begins as Chremylus and his servant Cario go to visit the Delphic oracle. Chremylus has a simple question. He wants to know if his son should be instructed in deception and injustice as the method usually used by men acquire riches. The response is rather cryptic. He is told to follow the advice of whomever he meets next. Presently he encounters Plutus, the personified god of riche...

As one should expect from Aristophanes, a silly, irreverent play, which in this case is examining the idea of wealth, and what might go wrong if it were distributed only to the just. Apparently there have been concerned elements in society for millennia regarding disparities between the wealthy and the poor, and how this does or doesn’t align with the just and the unjust. There is truly nothing new under the sun.

Bem, não sei se a obra está completa, porque achei o final abrupto. Eu gostei da temática, que eu poderia resumir como "o amor ao dinheiro é a raiz de todos os males" e "quem não quiser trabalhar, não coma". Algumas piadas são boas, outras são baixas, mas toleráveis.

rating is for the commentary, not Aristophanes' play. There are still some typos in the Greek but I like Sommerstein's commentary on the choice of variants and his straightforward explanation of all the jokes I failed to catch reading the text by myself.

God Wealth blinded by Zeus. Thus Wealth gives wealth to random ppl. Zeus benefits from this because he is worshiped and receives sacrifices.

Would have liked to read the complete manuscript. It was getting interesting.

Digo sí a la crítica sobre la "necesidad" de la pobreza frente a la riqueza. Mi momento favorito es la discusión entre Penia, la diosa de la pobreza, y los demás personajes.

Realmente una sátira divertida de la riqueza y lo que nos influye que sí que consigue resultar relevante miles de años después.

good critique on humanity and it’s relation to money

A story about the son of Demeter and Iason. The God of Riches (Plenty)

İki ana karakterimiz var: Penia ile Khremylos. Müstehcenliğin yoğun işlendiği bu eser ile Yeni Komedya'nın kapısının aralandığı söyleniyor. Acaba neyin doğru olduğunu tespit etmek zor mudur?